Thursday, 17 May 2012

FSG Show There’s No Room For Sentiment

 
Yesterday, a bitter sweet for Liverpool fans everywhere. First, news that Glen Johnson, Stewart Downing, Andy Carroll and Steven Gerrard had been picked to represent England ahead of this summer's European Championships, with Gerrard named as captain with a ringing endorsement from former Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson. Then the news that deep down we all had feared, Kenny Dalglish sacked as Liverpool manager. From the moment Phil Dowd blew his whistle at the end of the FA Cup Final Kenny’s goose was cooked.
 
John W. Henry and Tom Werner refused to endorse his candidature for a continuation of his current role having done so a month earlier. Anyone, following baseball and the Red Sox, who are currently going a traumatic season of their own, knows that FSG are quite capable of making ruthless decisions. It seems King Kenny's cross Atlantic journey fell on death ears and it will be interesting to see just how many of his support entourage manage to survive the cull.
 
Not even Dalglish’s legendary status it seems could save him. There is no doubt that he has galvanised the club from whence he found it, almost winning two domestic trophies, but it’s become very obvious that the Liverpool name surnonimous with the Champions League requires qualification as the very least. The world-wide brand which FSG is trying to build through its business requires professionalism at every level of the club and thus the downfall of Kenny began with the Suarez /Evra affair.

The sacking of Ian Cotton et al shows just how unhappy FSG were that the club were held up to ridicule during the affair. Dalglish came across as cantankerous on television during this time and as Liverpool’s league performances became more disparate, his selections became more stubborn. It was as if he was trying to prove a point with Henderson and Downing who both appeared to be woefully out of form at times throughout the season. In addition, Andy Carroll only coming good at the end of the season, and Charlie Adam’s sporadic form added more fuel to the fire to the evidence. As I stated on previously blogs, relying on Henderson and Downing may just cost the manager his job and although it wasn’t the only reason, it didn’t help.

FSG I’m sure would not have wanted to hear about the definition of economics in terms of supply and demand given their outlay over the 15 months. In saying that, we can only hope that they recognise that football is not baseball and a direct correlation cannot be made, because sometimes we need time and this is now Liverpool’s fourth manager in the space of two years and we need a period of consultation, consolidation and realisation that we are up against the financial powerhouses in Manchester and Chelsea.

As Dave a fellow blogger said about the pressure facing Martinez if it is he who follows King Kenny,”Watch the fans turn on Martinez very quickly if he doesn’t start well!”
The Holy Grail is the Premiership and that is the measuring tool to which every Liverpool manager is held up too. The owners obviously felt eighth place was not good enough and that in culmination with the goings on off the pitch meant Kenny’s position had become untenable. Ian Ayre’s comments support this "Results, perhaps, were not where we wanted them to be and that drives the decision," Ayre noted. "We feel it's the right decision and one we have to move forward with, but there's lots of praise and admiration for him.

"We have a big long-term plan for this football club; we've always talked about progress and moving forward. We've made a lot of progress off the pitch, creating a lot of foundations to build the business on and improve revenues, and the next important thing to move forward is football." The manager’s removable can be seen as the final piece before the reconstruction of the club in the eyes of FSG and even if one thinks Dalglish deserved another year, we must move on, although we will never forget King Kenny. Ayre himself, rightly lauded for his financial acumen, should consider himself lucky to retain his position given the lack of leadership, support and advice given throughout after the Suarez/Evra incident.

The club needs to get a manager in a quickly as possible with the European Championship next month and next transfer market important as the owners will obviously want to give financial support to the new incumbent and that person will also want time to move on players. That person must be a manager of the highest calibre as we need to use all the leverage possible to get top players to the club and not lose players like Martin Skrtel. Pep Guardiola comes to mind. Granted he has taken a year’s sabbatical, but a strategic view would’ve been to ask Dalglish to stay on and concentrate his efforts in getting a top four position and use the domestic cup competitions, to blood the youngsters with seniors players concentrated on the League and European competition.

Read anything about Kenny Dalglish the man and one knows we are talking about a class act. His final statement showed that just how much he loves the club and as disappointed as he was his thoughts remained with keeping that club on equilibrium. He will and will always be part of Liverpool FC and that’s why is so difficult to write this because we as a club owe Kenny a debt of gratitude for his loyal service as player, a manager and a man of the people. YNWA

Here’s Kenny’s statement in full from the Liverpool website read as follows:

Despite feeling a sense of disappointment at leaving his post, the Scotsman revealed the pride he has felt at leading the Club over the past 16 months - and thanked Fenway Sports Group for the way in which his departure has been handled.

"It has been an honour and a privilege to have had the chance to come back to Liverpool Football Club as Manager," said Dalglish. "I greatly appreciate the work that Steve, Kevin, the players and all of the staff put in during my time and feel proud that we delivered the Club's first trophy in six years winning the Carling Cup and came close to a second trophy in the FA Cup Final. Of course I am disappointed with results in the league, but I would not have swapped the Carling Cup win for anything as I know how much it meant to our fans and the Club to be back winning trophies.
"Whilst I am obviously disappointed to be leaving the football club, I can say that the matter has been handled by the owners and all concerned in an honourable, respectful and dignified way and reflects on the quality of the people involved and their continued desire to move the football club forward in the same way as when they arrived here.
 
"I would like to thank all of the staff at the Club for their effort and loyalty. I said when first approached about coming back as Manager that I would always be of help if I can at any time and that offer remains the same.
 
"Finally, I want to put on record my heartfelt gratitude to Liverpool's fans, who have always given me and the Club their unwavering support. Without them neither the Club nor I would have achieved anything."
 
Personally, I think Dalglish is unlucky. Yes he has made mistakes, but at least starting the next season could have seen a change fortunes, especially with the lack of quality managers available to us. As Tom Werner re-iterated after his sacking, FSG asked Kenny to fill the breach, "Kenny came into the club as manager at our request at a time when Liverpool Football Club really needed him," he added.
 
"He didn't ask to be manager; he was asked to assume the role. He did so because he knew the club needed him."
 
Christian Purslow who feels Dalglish should not have lost his job, felt that he was let down by the club in not be supported in the Suarez which stated at the time, in terms of the communications, press and diversity offices.
 
Purslow said, the following to the BBC:

"I think it's unfair and unrealistic to expect a football manager to be front and centre on an issue of that kind," he said. "I would never expect my manager to make decisions about communications policy, and a sensible legal matter.

"He should not have been put in that situation. He does not have the training you might need to handle that situation. To judge him for that, I would be astonished if that would play any part in the decision to remove him as manager and if so I would take issue with that."
 
"They invested a lot of money in his team and I'm not sure they've given him anywhere near enough time to make the investment work. It seems bizarre to me to have a situation where you appoint someone for three years and make significant investment and, one year in, lose faith in that.
 
"Kenny came into the club initially to help me and the board behind the scenes and then stepped in at a terribly difficult time in the club's history. The previous manager had been starved of funds, the squad desperately needed investment and he did that.

"Everybody would say he unified the club and made Liverpool a football story again. He made us an attractive team to watch again."

As a supporter I just home we don’t become a Chelsea type club, sacking a manager on a whim because that is and has never been the Liverpool FC way.

YNWA

54 comments:

  1. I will rather have Benitez back even though it looks like many steps backward, than appoint Martinez and sack him 3 months into the season. H eis expert in fighting reelgation like Everton specialises in coming up strong during half of the seaosn.

    Swansea's manager sounds just tight to me.

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    1. Dalglish tried his best to get us back to the top but English football has moved on too much for him to make nothing but a minor impact on the domestic game.

      It will be interesting to see what the thoughts of the owners will be going forward as going for a younger manager will take time and persistence but the question we need to answer is “Do we have that time?” Three years so far without Champions League football for us is not good enough.

      Bringing in a new manager is gonna have that added pressure of having to get top 4 in their first season or be under pressure straightaway.

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    2. Not for me Edet. The raucous era of Hicks and Gillet has made people forget how Rafa treated certain players. He certainly drove Alonso and Benayoun among others out of the club and remember some that football was the most turgid I've ever witnessed at Anfield.

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    3. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/16/kenny-dalglish-liverpool-sacking-contenders

      I've got a feeling it could be AVB.

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    4. Apart from AVB and the return of Rafa from gardening leave, I’m not sure many of the managers on the list would be on a short list if a vacancy came up at any of the top four clubs.

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    5. see below:

      LIVERPOOL IN NO RUSH FOR NEW BOSS (PART 1)
      Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre insists the club are in no rush to appoint a new manager following the sacking of Kenny Dalglish.

      The Scot was sacked on Wednesday just 12 months into a three-year contract after Fenway Sports Group determined an eighth-placed Premier League finish did not represent sufficient grounds for optimism.

      Dalglish led the Anfield outfit to a first trophy in six years, the Carling Cup, and an appearance in the FA Cup final but it wasn't enough as the Americans left no room for sentimentality in removing the 61-year-old fan favourite.

      Wigan manager Roberto Martinez, Swansea boss Brendan Rodgers and Andre Villas-Boas, who was sacked by Chelsea earlier this year, are three of the names already linked with the post but Liverpool will take their time in naming an opponent.

      Ayre told Liverpool's official website: "Whether it was the board of Liverpool recruiting Bill Shankly many years ago or the recruitment of Kenny Dalglish 18 months ago, it's the same process.

      "The board will create a criteria of what that manager should look like and we'll match that with the best possible candidates and make a decision on that basis.

      "That (the time frame) will be dictated by finding the right candidate of the right quality.

      "What we want is the best, what we don't want is to choose quickly or choose because there's a time pressure. It'll be about finding the right person who can do the best job for Liverpool Football Club."

      Meanwhile Ayre maintains the decision to appoint Dalglish was not a mistake and believes the Scot should still be very proud of the legacy he has left behind on Merseyside.

      He said: "It absolutely wasn't a mistake and couldn't be further from it, to be honest. If you look back across that period, let's be clear - we asked Kenny to come back, he didn't ask for the job.

      "We very much went and asked him to take the position, to come back and to help and he did all of those things. He always said 'if I can be of any help, I will'. He really was the catalyst to everything we have now to go forward.

      "He was the person who galvanised everyone around such a difficult time, he brought people together, he brought the club, the fans and the players together. There were issues all over the place and in bringing all of those together he cemented us all with this unity to work together.

      "That's such a legacy for him to leave here today. I don't believe there's anybody else who could have done that and Liverpool fans and Liverpool Football Club will always be grateful to Kenny for that, but like any plan there are different people at different times along that journey.

      "Kenny has done a fantastic thing in his part of it and we move to the next chapter. He'll always be a part of it and he'll always be a part of the club."

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    6. LIVERPOOL IN NO RUSH FOR NEW BOSS (PART 2) - From the Sportinglife.com

      Liverpool have endured significant upheaval in recent weeks, with Dalglish following director of football Damien Comolli out of the exit door at Anfield, but Ayre insists the club's hierarchy have a clear direction in mind for the coming months.

      He added: "A few people have asked that question saying 'is this Liverpool in some form of disarray?' I'd actually say it's completely the opposite.

      "There is a plan, there's been a plan over the last few months of 'what is the next step, how do we go forward, what is the right way forward for Liverpool Football Club?' Of course you don't go out and tell the world what that plan is, you just act upon it and as I said before, we often do these things behind closed doors.

      "It's about putting all the parts of that together and then unveiling them at the appropriate times, but there is certainly no concern at my level or the board that we're in disarray. We're making the decisions we're making and we're doing the things we're doing because they're part of a bigger plan to take the football club forward.

      "That may seem like a concern for some people, for our fans and others, maybe for some of our staff, but they have to understand you have to develop a plan, implement a plan and execute it and that's all going on in the background.

      "As and when it's appropriate to talk in detail about any part of it, that's absolutely what we'll do."

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    7. The key phrase from that statement, for me is:

      "He was the person who galvanised everyone around such a difficult time, he brought people together, he brought the club, the fans and the players together. There were issues all over the place and in bringing all of those together he cemented us all with this unity to work together.

      "That's such a legacy for him to leave here today.

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    8. Working on LFC timeframe do not expect any quality players brought in this transfer window because they will take so long to find the right manager and by then the new season will have started!!!

      Hope the ruthlessness of the sacking doesn’t come back to bite us next season – as I say I really feel sorry for the next manager if he doesn’t get top 4 next season!!! There seems to be a whiff of panic with our owners – if the new manager shows progression and gets us 4-5 points off 4th place – I would count that as a successful start but the owners may see that as failure and if they do !!! God help us !!!!

      If they were not going to see the Dalglish project through – they really shouldn’t have given him a three year contract – they should have said thanks but no thanks at the end of last season – the fact they sacked him and made it public sickens me !!! With someone of his legendary status they should have made a public statement stating he has left by mutual consent as we are meant to have a reputation of not sacking our managers !!! Well that has now gone out the window with us now having our 4th manager in post in the past 2 years which is highly embarrassing for our club.

      If you think I am being a bit harsh have a read of Alan Hansen’s article in todays Telegraph below to see what the club still means to Dalglish.

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    9. I think it’s interesting that Ayre says that these changes have been considered at length –

      "There's been a plan over the last few months of 'what is the next step, how do we go forward, what is the right way forward for Liverpool Football Club?”

      I think that they must have people lined up to take the various vacant positions at the club. Whoever they get in will need to hit the ground running because the fans will slaughter them if they have a poor start.

      I really don’t want Martinez, Rogers or Lambert. An ability to avoid relegation should not be the main criteria and I think the job would be too big for any of these managers at the moment. We need someone who is internationally recognised and can attract top talent to the club. AVB doesn’t fill me with confidence having watched his Chelsea side play some truly awful football last season. If I had my realistic pick of the bunch (Guardiola is never going to happen) I’d take Jurgen Klopp who has turned Dortmund into a beast of a team and just last weekend Spanked Munich 5-2 to secure the league and cup double. Failing that I would give Capello a ring, his record at club level is fantastic and England’s performance at World Cup 2010 was more typical of England than Capello.

      It’s a ballsy decision by FSG, let’s all hope it was for the best.

      Baz

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    11. I think Jurgen Klopp would be interesting to a lot of clubs given what he's achieved at Dortmund...if anything I think he's probably out of our league at present!

      I'd like to see someone with experience of managing a club that is expected to win every week - someone like capello. But out of the realistic options I AVB might be one of the better options.

      Obviously, my love for rafa knows no bounds (can't believe your still talking bout turgid football Vic! remember the 4-0 nil against Real, 4-1 against United and more goals scored than anyone else that year?) but i don't think he'd be the right appointment given how devicisive he still is and fact more so than any other candidate the press would be on his case from day one...although I suppose AVb wouldn't get a great deal more leeway!

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    12. I don’t think that there is any chance of Rafa coming back, senior players losing faith in him and briefing the press against him was the reason he left in the first place and given that those players are still around his return would only be divisive. FSG have brought back one ex-manager already, I doubt they’ll do it again. Klopp despite his current success would be a possibility. Liverpool are still a huge club with global support and he’d earn much more money than he does at Dortmund, it all depends if he fancies a challenge.

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  2. To sum up it has been an exceptionally sad chapter in our club's great history to see one of our own greatest players fail was not the plan.

    During the past 18 months in charge he has shown naivety through the Suarez saga, has shown petulance through various post match interviews but has ultimately put the club first as he was taught all those years ago and left with great dignity with his head held high and his status as a legend still intact.

    The task for FSG now is to get the choice of new manager correct to ensure we do not get into the same situation 18 months down the road.

    If they get it right we will look back at these days as significant days when FSG finally established themselves as a major force in British football by making a controversial but decisive decision which has improved our standing.

    Unfortunately if they have got it wrong they will be seen by LFC fans as hasty decision makers with as much knowledge of football as most football fans have of baseball!

    Time will tell and I sincerely hope they have got it right!

    Just would also like to say thank you for King Kenny making the hard decision to make a return to the club he loves and despite it not working out he will always be the biggest name at our club and will always be revered by LFC fans the world over. YNWA!

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  3. Funny about the reference to David Dein.

    I was standing waiting outside the FA Cup Final for Karl and Gerard Houllier arrived with David Dein. Dein was there a good few minutes signing autographs for Liverpool supporters with Houllier.

    Wouldn't surprise me if Kenny came back in some fashion later on. Heard yesterday he told the owners to use his compensation to buy players.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/18/swansea-city-brendan-rodgers-liverpool-interview?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+theguardian%2Ffootball%2Frss+%28Football%29

    Brendan Rogers has knocked back our approach!

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  4. Fair enough, can’t say I’m that bothered.

    Although it would be funny if FSG ended up interviewing just one candidate, it might give them a reality check.

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  5. Bit of a joke that but like Barry I'm more relieved than anything.

    Heard that about Kenny and his compensation myself, if true that is an unbelievable gesture. He's handled the whole thing with such dignity, would of been so easy for him to be bitter especially if he ends up being replaced by a guy whose biggest achievement in the game is avoiding relegation, albeit by playing some nice football along the way!

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  6. Ian Ayre ssets out the vision going forward:

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2012/05/18/liverpool-fc-sacking-kenny-dalglish-was-right-move-to-let-owners-realise-vision-for-club-says-ian-ayre-100252-30994586/

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  7. anyone else a bit suspicious when they see an article by james pearce these days?!

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  8. Ha ha – that’s why I sent the link! Jesus, you lot are suspicious!!

    Nice to see that Ian says - “There are no plans to fire anyone else,” Ayre confirmed.

    That would be because there is nobody left to sack Ian, or maybe the they think that a new tea lady is essential to improve the quality of their boardroom brew. Last season she was using round bags when the yanks wanted those pyramid thingys.

    Baz

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  9. Heard that Clarke tried to resigned in support of Dalglish, but it was knocked back.

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  10. Also this doesn’t fill me with confidence.

    The manager’s role will also change. FSG want Dalglish’s successor to be devoted solely to coaching, although he will still have the final say on signings. That kind of model rules out any possible return to the Anfield hot-seat for former manager Rafa Benitez.


    It sounds like they just want a Puppet – Liverpool was built by strong managers exerting total control, this will be quite a departure. Do we really want a coach when the owners only stick their head above the parapet every couple of months and will probably be even less visable now that fans are baying for their blood over Kenny’s dismissal? I think we need a big character, not some wallflower.

    Baz

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  11. I agree, and what concerns me about the martinez link is that he would probably fit this category. I bit like hodgson, I fear he'd just be so delighted to have such a big job that he'd be overly deferential to the owners and be a bit of a yes man. Without wanting to fall in too simplistic radio-phone type analysis I also fear that martinez seems a bit too nice and worry that he might struggle with the big names and ego's.....

    Having said that I'm sure pep was essentially just a coach at barca, so it can work. It seems they are trying to institute a similar approach where it is much more about a club philosophy/ethos, and that a coach is just one part of this but obviously that would be more like a twenty year plan than a five year one so seems dangerously ambitious/pure fantasy

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  12. Liverpool rebuffed by Guardiola & Rodgers!

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  13. So we reportedly have a list of 12 potential candidates and Rogers and Pep have opted out. That leaves 10, so far I’ve heard the following names mentioned –

    Martinez

    Cappello

    Klopp

    DeChamps

    AVB

    That still leaves another 5 names on the list. Anybody heard of anyone else being asked in for an interview?

    Baz

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  14. I heard an Italian correspondent on the radio Wednesday night saying Capello is a done deal at Chelsea! So much bogus going round, hard to know where to start. The Mirror today were saying Rafa looks back in the frame.

    Where not far from being left in the wilderness in a very public way. Most top clubs always have someone tapped up before sacking, not us though! May end up with AVB or Martinez by default!!!

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  15. The sacking of a legend such as King Kenny Dalglish has left us up in arms as to which way to turn -do we go for a younger manager like Martinez who we will demand instant rewards such as a minimum 4th place in the league. Or do we go for an experienced manager with previous experience of winning things in Europe or the major European leagues such as Andre Villas-Boas or Fabio Capello who will also be given the target of winning us a place back into the top 4.

    Sacking Dalglish has put so much pressure on whoever takes over that job and I feel it is a major disaster that we have now sacked our manager and due to our current standing of just scrapping into Europe's 2nd tier competition (Europa League) we are no longer seen as an exciting fresh new project for prospective exciting managers out there.

    This disastrous mess we are currently in just adds to the terrible mire we put ourselves in with the Suarez/Evra situation you would have thought we would have had someone lined up ready to step up to the position but as it is FSG and Ian Ayre involved it is again dealt with as disorganised chaos and we are now the laughing stock of English football.

    When will they ever learn?

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  16. 25/05/2012

    Roberto Martinez now being reported as favourite for the LFC top job and guessing you goes are going have some serious views on the subject... :)

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  17. You can’t be serious!!! Why can’t they just talk to him on the phone and carry the search. Our process appears to be more aligned to Lord Sugar’s, but with the apprentices turning the job offer down!

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    1. looks like he cut his holiday short then! its been all along Roberto Martinez,

      the talk will not be about the vacancy it be drawing up his contract, terms and condition!, a done deal!!!

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    2. Well looks like we have decided on him then !!! Just don’t think the fans will give him any time and we will be in the same situation in 12 months time !!!

      We are slowly sinking out of big-time football guys !!!!

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    3. Quite frankly, he should have taken the Villa job to enable him to gain the experience needed to manage a top four club.

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    4. I would bet the farm that it will end up being Martinez coaching and working under a more senior / experienced DOF. As days go by the options seem to be getting whittled down to this inevitable conclusion.

      I have to say though that Martinez should be more interested in the Villa Job as it’s much more of a natural fit for him. He’s not got a chance at Liverpool unless he comes in with an amazing winning run. The job is obviously too big for him at the moment and the fact that he’ll be replacing Kenny just makes it absolutely impossible.

      I hate to be all doom and gloom but Dark days lie ahead if this appointment goes through. FSG had better be absolutely sure of what they are doing because the protests, marches and rallies could easily start before Christmas.

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    5. I agree with Billy, think Martinez has been their boy from the start and this whole process has been a bit of a charade to give the appearance of an exhaustive process. It's obvious from reports that Rodgers would take the job if actually offered it but he seems to have had an inkling that he wasn't being seriously considered. Think they knew there'd be outrage if they appointed martinez a day or two after sacking dalglish and that this week or so of various speculation will of dissipate that anger somewhat......

      I have concerns over martinez, namely that anyone who guides a team to 8 straight defeats in the league has question marks, but I think the comparisons with hodgson are wide of the mark. In Maritnez' favour he at least he plays attacking football and his style of play is probably better suited a club with loftier ambitions and better players. That all said I think it'll be a miracle if we qualify for champ league next season....

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    6. Well, if they eventually ended up with him, which is looking more likely. Let us give us him a chance. After all no one in his right mind would have thought Di Matt would do such a good job at Chelsea seeing he was sacked by WBA. On the flip side you may say Di Matt happens to do well because there was no serious pressure on him as he was not a big name Manager befitting Chelsea profile.

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    7. Totally agree. It's obvious they want some senior character to replace Comolli, preferably someone with vast managerial experience and then should Martinez get the job he can work hand in hand with that guy. All along the message seemed to be that they wanted a young manager or as Baz says a coach.

      They are putting in a American style structure to the club so the manager will have no say in anything but coaching the team. I wonder should we have a problem akin to the Suarez/Evra debacle would Van Gaal or whoever it maybe step up to the plate.

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    8. I can understand your pessism Barry and I share much of it but being the eternal optimist I think if they come out with a clear statement of strategy and back an appointment of martinez with an experienced DOF, and if there are signs that we are attempting to play in the right way fans will be much more patient than they were under Hodgson.

      A lot will depen on the financial backing he is given if appointed, because if it is not significant it will be hard to argue against fact they have just appointed an agreeable puppet.

      Again trying to stay positive but experience at a big club is not necessarily a pre-reqisite and other managers have had success at massive clubs with relatively little experience elsewhere and even with negative marks such as sackings in their cvs (milan's coach allegri for example). Though i loved them both I think one of both Rafa and Kenny's biggest flaws were their constantly confrontational attitude with the press which made them easy targets for critics but i think martinez will benefit from bit more patience due to his general affability (no doubt this will quickly change whilst under the pressure of anfield though!). He also has shown genuine talent for instituting clear style of play and footballing culture at both swansea and wigan and looks to be good at bringing young players through (moses, mccarthy, cleverly) and getting best out of players (Nzogbia, caldwell, maloney).

      As I have said he would of not of been my choice and I'd would of prefered kenny to of been given another season and the rest of the structure put in place now to bring in a younger manager next year but just trying to focus on some positives so I can at least enjoy my summer before the probably misery starts in august!!

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    9. Van Gaal has a reputation for being a bit of a headcase so I think they would keep him to talking strictly about ‘on-pitch’ matters.

      Apparently we have appointed some new director of communications from the US so I reckon he will be the new press mouthpiece on all things Liverpool. Something tells me he’ll be a wee bit busy.

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    10. well being positive we can start to back Roberto Martinez if appointed, look what magic Roberto Di Matteo done for Chelsea sitting at the back seat and coming forward!

      Americans have a a plan, and I'm sure they want Success too. a fresh new season all to play for.

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    11. I’m all for supporting the new manager and giving them a fair crack of the whip no matter who they are but some of the comments on the forums are a bit scary and I doubt that he’ll be shown much patience. Di Matteo was an ex player replacing a manager the Chesea fans despised. Martinez has no history with LFC and is replacing a man who was worshiped by the KOP.

      Baz

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    12. Totally agree Barry.

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    13. yeah, there's been rumours it's this guy Jen Chang and I think it's now be confirmed. He was a football editor at sports illustrated and I've been occasionally checking his twitter account for the last year or so as he tweets about quite a lot of football rumours and gives opinions on players. I obviously find him interesting enough to occassionally google him but he always reminds me of one of those championship manager fanatics who is constantly campaigning for the club they support to buy some barely known talent from some obsucre league so I'm a bit concerned he thinks he's coming in as chief scout! Think he might of deactivated his accound but it was jen chang 88 or something.....

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    14. Our King certainly did not help us to win back our 4th place. We rather start with an unknown, otherwise known as "zero based."

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    15. BIG MOUTH STRIKES AGAIN!

      Dave Whelan’s constant divulgence of every detail about the Roberto Martinez talks is getting absolutely ridiculous and every time he opens his mouth he starts slagging off Liverpool FC. I know he’s just trying to disrupt the process but someone from LFC needs to come out and slap him down when this is all over.


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    16. Dave Whelan is always lauded by Sky as open and approachable but to me he is very unprofessional and disrespectful – I hope Steve Bruce takes over the job and gets them relegated !!!!

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    17. Better still – Big Ek McLeish is at a loose end and read to get a new team playing his unique brand of unwatchable, turgid, negative football. :-)

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    18. his just winding things up, saying if Martinez does not have control of the players at LFC, he will not take the job!!

      things could close up by the week end!!

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    19. Whelan is the 'Arry redknapp of premier league chairmen. Total rent a quote! Saying we're a club with no heart? Where does he get his balls?! We may have fallen in recent years but we're still along way from the need to play some cheesy song anytime we score to generate a bit of atmosphere.....although with yankee owners that might not be to far away!!

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  18. Anyone of heard of Henry heading to Barcedona as Pepe (the departing Barc coach) is opened to good offer? Or is it just a washy washy talk!!!

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    1. Baz, shame he doesn't possess the lyrical ability of a Morrisey!

      Was put out when he took it upon himself to comment when Kenny got sacked, saying that when he went to Anfield there wasn't any Directors to meet him, i.e. no structure,

      To my mind, it's none of his business!!!

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    2. Big Mouth was also saying that Martinez was offered the job and will make final decision some time next week.

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    3. Is there anyone to help me with the story that Henry is on his way to Barc?

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    4. He's an absolute joker, it's outrageous that he is giving all these details

      From the guardian

      Having not seen his words in print for over 30 seconds, Wigan chairman Dave Whelan has pronounced that Lord Ferg will leave Manchester United. "After next season, Sir Alex will call it a day. The pressure is telling," he said, while repeatedly Googling himself to see how quickly his quotes made the internet.

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    5. Yeahh apparently Iniesta is Martinez's love child and has always wanted to one day play for his Dad!!

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